Maar voor die stoeigeveg in die Ilias is daar 'n vuisgeveg, en daarin se die een vuisvegter, Epeios
, van 'n teenstander (boek XXIII, vs.
These words, which could start an iambic line, suit both the Trojan war (fought over a woman) and the operations of Clodia's young men (instigated by a woman).(25) But in a tragedy entitled Equus Troianus the phrase might suggest a rather different point--not unwelcome to Cicero for his speech--that hiding in the Horse was a cowardly tactic, unworthy of true heroes.(26) Epeios
, maker of the Horse, was sometimes stigmatized as a coward (cf.